A comparison between vedic and Celtic traditions.

[maha]

I watched something last night about the Casites out of Babylon and this guy said they were the ones that went into Scandanavia circa 600BC and started the Odin/Wotan monothestic religions.

Has interesting theories on bloodlines saying it was due to the male resistance to certain plauges of the time.

Hence the locals who suffered and they didnt called them God-Kings.

And the women wanted to bear their children.



Man how the Vedic system has fallen.

[Ciggy]

I watched something last night about the Casites out of Babylon and this guy said they were the ones that went into Scandanavia circa 600BC and started the Odin/Wotan monothestic religions.

1. Odin/Wotan wasn't a monotheistic religion.
2. Asgarde = Agade (city-state of the Akkadians)
3. Aesir = Assyrians

So how to Aryans of the middle east become Aryans of Scandinavia? Lots of horse ridin'...

[Ix Balam II]

I watched something last night about the Casites out of Babylon and this guy said they were the ones that went into Scandanavia circa 600BC and started the Odin/Wotan monothestic religions.

The Casites symbol is the serpent of the god SIRU. In Hebrew its name is saraph, venomous serpent.

The Tree of Life is the central symbol and teaching tool of Kabbalah, which is the wisdom teaching underlying Judaism.

In Nordic mythology the World Tree or Yggdrasil of the Eddas is the giant ash tree that links and shelters all the worlds and the Kabbalah
and the Nordic World Tree originated from the same source.

Do you actually know what Yggdrasil means? ...its definitely NOT "Odin's horse"....

Oh...and did you know that Odin is a trinity. Odin the God, the King and the Schaman.

Some say that all the gods and goddesses are really manifestations of Odin...a bit like in Hinduism...

Teutonic god Odin = the supreme deity and creator of the cosmos and humans = derived from Proto-Germanic Wodan(az)

Old English Wod = mind, wit, soul

Wodan…the all-penetrating, all-conquering Spirit....like WISCHNU

[maha]

Well if you look at a map and the steppe on horseback you could have got around most of the planet without ever resorting to see.

Its common sense to think that everybody went everywhere.

[Ciggy]

Its common sense to think that everybody went everywhere.

Except where there were people with more horsemen with more bows and arrows, in the way.

[maha]

Yes that slight aside.

[Ix Balam II]

The domestication of the horse started in the Ukraine about 4000 B.C

Ha ha, who would have thought so.



Ohhh, what a cute little Balkan neolithic pull-bull....

It's part of an exhibition at the Vatican's Palazzo della Cancelleria and is approx. 7000 years old.



Well....

maybe the Egyptians didn't have "the wheel"...but the Balkans obviously had them...appearantly we even have a much bigger Pyramid in petto.

Must we embrace the long dispised regions of Europe and rewrite history?

[Ciggy]

In official archaeology the earliest evidence of animal husbandry is in the Tepe Ganj Dareh site in Iranian Kurdistan, between 7,000 and 8,000 BCE. My hypothesis is that it actually began much earlier than that, around 25,000 to 30,000 BCE, in Central Asia. The hypothesis is that starting at about 50,000 BCE humans migrated into Central Asia following animal herds. Eventually they would have discovered that animals caught in pit traps can be kept alive as a form of food preservation. This would have refined, over the milleniae, first into semi-permanent and later, permanent livestock keeping. One of the reasons for my hypothesis is the pattern of genetic evidence of human migrations away and out of Central Asia from 30,000 BCE to about 11,000 BCE. Prior to animal husbandry, migration would have been strictly a matter of having to go where the animals go; but with mobile livestock, people could go wherever they wanted to go, leading to more random dispersion of tribes.

[Ix Balam II]

the reasons for my hypothesis is the pattern of genetic evidence of human migrations away and out of Central Asia from 30,000 BCE to about 11,000 BCE.

What a nice theory, now you just need to link the genetic studies to prove it a fact , any link or reference?

Btw, 50,000 years ago mankind immigrated out of Africa into every corner of the world, so there is not much prove beyond humans following "big game" until that became extinct. You may want to to investigate the advent of agriculture and it's impact since it was the motor of all civilisations in history.

[Ciggy]

the reasons for my hypothesis is the pattern of genetic evidence of human migrations away and out of Central Asia from 30,000 BCE to about 11,000 BCE.

What a nice theory, now you just need to link the genetic studies to prove it a fact , any link or reference?ry

Btw, 50,000 years ago mankind immigrated out of Africa into every corner of the world, so there is not much prove beyond humans following "big game" until that became extinct. You may want to to investigate the advent of agriculture and it's impact since it was the motor of all civilisations in history.

http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/

Actually 40,000 BCE to 25,000 BCE more closely fits that particular illustration, rather than 30K to 11K.